National Defense: Topics for tonight's debate

National Defense, the magazine of the National Defense Industrial Association (NDIA), has this banner headline at this time: "New wave of global threats".

The November issue's lead article:  Top Five Threats to National Security in the Coming Decade.  

Reading that article suggests, in comparison with the uninspired question arenas for tonight's Presidential debate on foreign policy, that National Defense has laid out the basis very appropriate question for the debate.

The National Defense Industrial Association has identified five critical national security threats for the coming debts.

  • Biological weapons;
  • Nukes;
  • Cyber-Attacks;
  • Climate Change; and
  • Trans-national Crime

Please explain your perspective on these, highlighting arenas for the American public where your precepts and approaches differ from your opponent.

Clearly, this question could lead to a serious discussion for days on end, rather than a few minutes, but it would put on the table five quite serious arenas of "foreign policy" and allow the candidates to draw out differences. (This path, of course, would risk that the candidates would continue the climate silence through addressing issues other than climate change. Cyber-threats, for example, are showing themselves as quite real issues in economic (espionage, criminality), privacy, energy security, traditional national security, etc terms that merit serious discussion in the nation and, well, by the nominees.) Thus, an even better approach would be to devote a reasonable period of the debate -- perhaps 30 minutes -- to go through this list, allowing the two candidates to address each of these five in turn.

Here is the tentative (likely) list of question arenas for tonight's debate:

  • America's role in the world;
  • Our longest war - Afghanistan and Pakistan
  • Red Lines - Israel and Iran
  • The Changing Middle East and the New Face of Terrorism - I
  • The Changing Middle East and the New Face of Terrorism - II
  • The Rise of China and Tomorrow's World

Shocking, when considering this list, it is hard to see that any of these "top five threats to national security in the coming decade" identified by the National Defense Industrial Association fit cleanly into the list. (Obviously, climate change is relevant to all of these ... as is cyber-attacks as are ... but they are discussions to make them fit rather than specific raising of any of the five.)

Here is what I commented when first seeing the list

Let's see:

  1. 4 of the 6 are on the Middle East. Guess we know, clearly, what is "the world". Of BRIC, only China? Nothing on Europe, Japan, Oceania, Africa, South America...
  2. Nothing here on how the world community works together (or not) on critical issues -- like how does the Global community cooperate (or not...) on addressing climate change. Or, for example, what is the role of the UN, international law, and otherwise as related to the United States.
  3. What about questioning about the varying tools of power? Military, economic, cultural, diplomatic...
  4. What about trade?

Now, as per this post, I would certainly add a "5":

Why not use National Defense's identified top five threats to national security as the basis for a debate question or for a portion of the debate?

PS: I spent a very interesting day, last week, at the Navy Energy Forum, hosted by NDIA and the U.S. Navy.  I plan on writing several pieces from / based on / derived from the discussions yesterday.   Hat tip to the NDIA National Defense staffer, who highlighted the "top five threats" article to me when I discussed climate change with him. Kudoes to National Defense for an interesting article (which merits reading, discussion and debate) that provides the basis for a meaningful Presidential debate item.

PSPS:  A recent post re National Defense magazine, Extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence ... NDIA edition ...

PSPSPS: There are many who have noted the crickets of climate science in the debates. Some of the excellent discussions of this include:

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this is the most important election in history

Shahryar's picture

We have to stop the crazy Republicans from taking over! Wait...let me see if I've thrown out my Carville begging letter yet...guess I hadn't recycled that box. This is great stuff.

Some choice bits:

"We're defending 23 Senate seats - versus the GOP's 10 - and that ain't a fair fight." (I wonder why, if he's going to use "ain't", he bothered to add the "g" in defending. Why not "defendin'"?)

"Boatloads of billionaire bucks are funding so many lying, underhanded attack ads that my eyeballs feel like they're going to fall out."

"The GOP agenda is simple: say goodbye to health care reform. Pillage Social Security and Medicare. Foul up the environment. Let Wall Street bankers root around like hogs at the trough."

Oh, I didn't know that, or how important this is! And then in Massachusetts, Liz Warren I Love Her She's So Wonderful She's Wall Street's Biggest Nightmare (that's the name I call her...the whole thing) is being slimed! Oh no!

If only I'd known all of this before I cast my ballot! Now I'm afraid I might have made the wrong choice when I voted for someone who's for what I'm for and against what I'm against. I should have realized it's more important to vote for ....for....umm...hold on, I'll figure how to express this...the Party of Not Them.

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We already, rather Obama and Dem leadership already did the

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first thing, and the next two are coming quite soon.

say goodbye to health care reform. Pillage Social Security and Medicare

If they would refer to it as health care insurance regulation, that would be the correct terminology. Nothing, absolutely nothing was done for real reform, to throw water on the greedy middlepeople to make them melt and no longer demand extortion money in order to receive affordable and accessible health care. (Bad sentence structure, I'm sorry ;)

As far as Carville goes, I believe he was good at one time, better than Frank Luntz, Carville and Begala, but then they sold out just like most of the other people.

The Democratic Party couldn't find a strong message and fight the republicans if it was taped to a wealthy contributer's forehead or posted at every hole at every posh golf course.

Anthony Weiner was a great fighter against the health care insurance companies, especially when Weiner kept repeating that health care insurance companies serve no purpose in a civil society. He was right. So is and was Alan Grayson saying that the republicans' plan is don't get sick, and if you do, die quickly. (And then Speaker Pelosi would not allow Rep Grayson to have a large role for the Dems regarding this insurance regulation. He had no speaking time during the debate other than getting in line with others to be able to speak for 15 seconds and say, "I support this bill."

Other than Bernie Sanders, and maybe a few others just to prove themselves in a soundbite here and there but not a frequest sustained fight about the health care companies and Obama caving, no other Dem was either capable or willing to fight for something good for The People.

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a quick note on Carville's "not a fair fight" comment

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It's so "unfair" that the Democrats have to defend 23 seats while the Republicans only have to defend 10. Apparently Carville would prefer that some of the Democrats elected in 2006 had lost.

As we well remember, the American public was fed up by 2006. Bush's popularity had fallen into either the low 30s or high 20s. We wanted the people who were perceived as being different to take over, so we voted for a lot of Democrats. That's why there are so many running now. What makes it "unfair" to someone like Carville is that the people who were elected in 2006 are being held to account. These are the people who, for the most part, have done nothing, who have let the status quo continue, who didn't do what they were elected to do.

You know those Hollywood movies where the snake oil salesman is in a rural town and he and his shill are discovered and chased out of town? That's sort of what's beginning to happen.

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The MIC has spoken on what the top five threats are.

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They forgot themselves as Number One. Sorry, the topics for the debate are bullshit, we know they would be but that article from the NDIA is pure propaganda.
Number two - the Department of Homeland Security.
Number three - American exceptionalism
Number four - the CIA and the FBI
Number five - the United States Global War OF Terror.

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From Glenn Greenwald's column at The Guardian

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from his pre-debate comments:

But if there is one thing the 2008 campaign should have permanently taught, it is that campaign rhetoric often bears little relationship to what a person will do once empowered. More important, it is almost certainly the case that an Obama-led attack on Iran would generate far more public support than a Romney-led attack, because most Democrats will almost certainly cheer for the former while pretending to be horrified by the latter, will while Republicans would support both (that's the dynamic that made the very same "counter-terrorism" policies that were so divisive in the Bush years become wildly popular once Obama embraced them).

That's true on the international level as well. Recall the 2008 CIA report fretting about growing anti-war sentiment in western Europe and concluding that the best weapon to safeguard against its continuation would be the election of Obama. That's because, the CIA presciently realized, Obama's election would massively increase public support for US wars because it would be a kind, sophisticated, progressive constitutional scholar rather than a swaggering, evangelical Texas cowboy who would be the face of them. Add to all that the Nixon-to-China dynamic - just as only a conservative president could have established relations with the Chinese Communists, arguably only a Democratic president could start a new war in the Muslim world, cut Social Security, etc. - and the picture is far more muddled than many like to depict it as being.

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From the movie Borat - We Support Your Global War of Terror

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The first time I heard that line was in the genius comedy movie: Borat: Cultural Learnings of America for Make Benefit Glorious Nation of Kazakhstan. The movie is just loaded with memorable scenes. During one scene he is a guest of honor at a County Fair happening somewhere in the heartland. He does his spiel about being from Kazakhstan and says: Kazakhstan supports the US Global War Of Terror.

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