Almost four years ago a group of people got together at Daily Kos and formed a weekly series called Chronic Tonic. It was a place to share stories, advice and information and connect with others with chronic conditions and those who care for them. Sometime near the start of this year the series went dormant. That was a shame.
Here's the thing--it was Chronic Tonic and you know these things can go dormant for a while, but you never know where or when they will pop up again. Turns out, it's here and now. By way of introduction I will start the same way here as I started there, with my story and the first post I ever wrote way back in January of 2009...
Hi my name is triv33 and I am a difficult patient. I didn't start out that way. It was never a goal. If you ask anyone who knows me they would tell you I've always been a tad on the subversive side, cynical as hell, the first to question authority, with one exception, the doctor's office. Like most people I admired and respected my kindly family doctor. When I was twelve and I first started to get migraines, he sent me to my first neurologist. After a bunch of tests to rule out the really bad stuff they put me on medication. The headaches were under control. Thank you Doctor Miraculous!
When I was seventeen, the headaches came back with a vengeance. Back to the doctor I went. He sent me to a new neurologist, who seemed vaguely disappointed with me. He seemed to think my headaches were "stress" related.
The headaches were not so cooperative this time around. They suggested I try to remove the stress. In October of that year I dropped a History class that Coincided with the start time of the headaches. More drugs, lots of them. In November I quit school. I had a night shift job. I made good money. In six months the headaches were back under control. I never questioned the doctors. Why would I? They knew what they were doing.
When I was twenty-two the headaches came back to stay. Intractable migraine/cluster combination.
It still took me more than ten years to become really difficult. Ten years of jumping through hoops going from specialist to specialist, trying alternative therapies, racking up more ailments and watching my life go to hell. Ten years of buying whatever any joker with a diploma on his wall was selling and getting sicker by the day.
One night, shortly before I was going to enter a "big" headache clinic in the city I was laying in bed watching a Bill Hicks special on T.V. and the man said something that resonated with me.
"I don't mean to sound bitter, cold, or cruel, but I am, so that's how it comes out."
Those became words to live by. I was bitter and my new doctor and the staff at the headache clinic were about to find that out.
When you enter the clinic, you leave your pain meds behind you. You need a clean slate for infusion therapy. The nurse asked me if I needed a Phenobarbital to take the edge off. "Edge?" I say. She then very patronizingly explains how I might feel uncomfortable without my meds. When I tell her I kicked the opioid analgesic nasal spray and the pills the weekend before she is genuinely horrified, "But...you can't do that!" She's almost beside herself. "You'd like to believe that, yet here I am." and so it began.
First thing they made me do was take a depression index and the MMPI. Having satisfied themselves that I was not a malingerer and no more depressed than the situation warranted they saw fit to treat me.
The drug they dripped into my veins burned like battery acid and sent my blood pressure sky high. I could have taken that if it had worked but it didn't. That didn't stop them from hanging the next bag at the appointed hour. I complained, bitterly. I told them to keep Nurse Shaky Hands away from my hep-cap. I had blown through two of them and even though I knew it was my own crap veins, I blamed her.
I learned many things that week.
I learned how to get rid of Nurse Shaky Hands. They changed my drip over to a steroid without telling me. It made me do an involuntary herky-jerky in my bed which really freaked me out. Nurse Shaky Hands breezed in, took a look at me and said, "Oh, don't worry, Hon, the Benadryl will kick in and stop that in a minute." I blew a gasket. She really should have told me first.
I learned I could make a resident blush. He came to discuss my depression index and MMPI while my sister was there. He asked if maybe I'd rather he came back at a better time. "No, no, please, there's nothing in there you could reveal that my sister doesn't already believe far, far worse." I then proceeded to hector him over the fact that I felt it unfair that I was asked to take a depression index when it didn't take into account that I had been living in agonizing pain for years. Wasn't it the exact same depression index that they give to people with no pain? Dirty pool.
I learned I could derail a group therapy session in five minutes flat. I listened as one of the others told how a migraine spoiled going to a big business dinner with her husband. My eyes narrowed and I looked around suspiciously, "Is anyone else here intractable? No?" The therapist said something about everyone there having problem headaches to which I rolled my eyes, sucked my teeth and let out a huff. A stilted and uncomfortable session followed. I was not invited back.
I learned how to handle a showdown. My doctor made his way to my room to see me. We had a little back and forth, blah, blah, blah and then he asked THE QUESTION: "Don't you want to get better?" Oh, I went off.
"For Christsakes, what the fuck do you think I'm doing here? I know I haven't been a model patient but this hasn't exactly been a delight for me either. Don't forget this isn’t my first time at the rodeo. You're like my fourth or fifth neurologist. I've been from pillar to post to try to find something, anything that would help me. I’ve been made to jump through all sorts of hoops to prove I wanted needed and deserved treatment only to wind up with shit time and time again. I've been treated like a malingerer, a head case a hysterical woman and a drug seeker. I've been told it's psychosomatic, it's stress, it's vascular, no, wait, its hormones! You get migraines because you're depressed. No, jackass, I'm depressed because I've been in agonizing pain forever and nothing and nobody is helping me! You're atypical, you're combination, and you’re intractable! Is that me or the headaches? I'm not sure anymore. I've lost jobs, friends and I'm about to lose my marriage. My husband treats me like a lemon, I looked great in the showroom but I sure was problematic once he got me home. Since this started I've been diagnosed with IBS, CFS and I'm pretty sure I've got fibromyalgia. I had the option to go down to Virginia to a pain management clinic but that pretty much amounted to becoming a controlled drug addict so I decided to come here. What do you think?"
He told me he believed I desperately wanted to get better. He told me he didn't know what was causing my headaches or if he could help me but that he would like to try, and for nearly two years he did.
The clinic was all about the protocol. My doctor told me that they were helping up to 80% of people who hadn't found help before. Unfortunately, I was not in that 80%. For eleven brutal, pain filled months I followed the protocol. No over the counter or prescription nsaids. No narcotics. I had some schizophrenia drug they used "off-label" for pain that was absolutely worthless to me. If you don't fit the protocol they try to make you fit. The clinic claimed the reason the protocol wasn't working was that I was probably still suffering "rebound" headache. I was scheduled for another week of infusion therapy.
This time I was not as disagreeable as the first time, still, I didn't last the week. The drugs clearly were not working. My doctor released me a day early. On my follow-up visit he told me he was leaving the clinic for another area of the hospital but that he would like to keep me and a few other patients that did not fit the protocol. I asked him what that meant. Well, it meant no more needless suffering. Some people do not fit the protocol, and its nonsense to keep trying to refine a drug program for people who don't respond well to it. For some reason, some signal was misfiring in my head and no amount of following the protocol would stop that. Oh sweet relief, good drugs!
Neither of us was long for the clinic after that. He lasted eight months. He told me he was leaving to get into research, and that he had to hand my case over to another doctor at the clinic. He told me I was the toughest nut he had ever tried to crack. Well, shit. I wished him well. As I was leaving he said, "By the way, did I tell you a friend of mine, a guy I went to school with, just joined a neurology practice up in your neck of the woods. Name's _, good man." He knew what I was in for.
My next visit to the clinic was my last. A man shaped piece of arrogance in a white coat walked in, glanced at my records and sniffed, dismissively, "I'm not going to treat you like ___ treated you, we're going to start from scratch, with infusion." I said, "We are like hell." Got up and walked out. The shock on his face was comical. They didn't want to give them up, but I left there, records in hand, that day.
I went to see my ex doctor's friend. I told him I was a difficult patient. I gave him my records and with the caveat that I objected to the nurses' use of the phrase "patient claims" as I found it kind of bitchy, as if I were telling them something that wasn't true, but other than that, have at it. When I went back for a follow-up he told me that he had hoped to offer me some new treatment, but after looking at my records my old doctor had done everything he would have done and more. My family doctor could maintain my current treatment plan. It was a shame but all the rage now was triptans and not much else was going on but refinements in that area. But, come on back when they come up with something new, he would like to work with me.
That was ten years ago. I won't lie to you. I bottomed out for a while. I did, indeed, have fibromyalgia. I got myself over medicated. I got back on the nasal spray. I spent days at a time in bed. I finally got disability. My then husband started his own better living through chemistry experiments and the whole situation became untenable. Late in 2001 I stuffed what I could into two Hefty bags and ran for my life.
Once you run for your life, what do you do with it? Try to figure some things out. There's a life worth living if you want it. I decided that I wanted it.
Some things there are no good answers for. Why me? I don't know, why not me? Am I still in pain? Yes. Every day. Sometimes it's better and sometimes it's worse but it is never, ever gone. When it's better, I can feel almost giddy and I tend to over-do, but it doesn't last. When a cluster hits it can be damn near unbearable but I know this can't last either.
As far as doctors go, I found a good one. She doesn't mind that I'm difficult. She thinks I'm a riot. We worked together on a treatment plan. I told her I needed to balance pain control with my desire for remaining functional. No more opioids, please, they are hell to kick. I take an anti-seizure medication as a prophylactic every day and butalbital for three weeks of the month. This prevents me from building a tolerance and ever getting close to the dose I used to take. It's not perfect, but I can live with it.
Oh, yeah, did I mention I've got a husband and two kids now? I married a bass player. Yup, migraine girl married a bass player in a rock and roll band. Nobody saw that one coming. I explained exactly what he'd be getting himself into and he was still game. We have two miracle boys (I was told I couldn't have children, but that's another story), ages six and four. Is it easy? No, but what in the hell in this life that's worth a damn ever is?
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So...
My boys are almost ten and eight and a half now and me and Cleetus are still keeping each other amused and the headaches are rolling right along and so am I. How're you doing?
Thanks for bringing chronic tonic to Vots triv.
Good vibes sent, I know they can't help the pain you live with, but good vibes sent anyway.
I am so happy to see this group here!
The strangest thing happened today. Finally, after suffering from a migraine-cluster headache for 12 days, I went to the doctor. I had tried everything I had to get rid of this beast: tylenol with codeine, fiorcet, shiatzu, herbal headache treatments. I was not certain whether the headache was a cause or a symptom of how wretched I was feeling. After getting the blood test results and seeing that my liver wasn't the cause of the problem and the diabetes nurse insisting that I go to the doctor (why the hell do they use flourescent lights in hospitals and doctors offices? are they trying to drive me mad?).
The man actually tells me to look for triggers (like I don't know this, I have been having these bloody things since I am in my late teens; of course, the aura component only appeared 4 years ago and the damn things have linked to my menieres disease) ... he tells me to avoid stress. He asks "are you stressed?2 I say, "I am stressed, I have had a crippling headache for 12 days and it won't go away ... wouldn't you be stressed?! I get migraines, I have been getting them since I was young. My brain is weirdly wired, just stop the damn pain already. I cannot take imitrex or imigran, cannot take sumatriptan; the tylenol with codeine is not working. the light is causing sparkles in front of my eyes, I get primary colour blocks. help me get rid of the damn things!!!"
He did give me something to help with the nausea that allows the absorption of the codeine which I stopped taking as it wasn't working. Why do I have to prove that I am not drug seeking or psychologically imbalanced? My whole family gets the damn things!
I really needed to rant, thank you!
shouldn't you be able to get a card or something
that IDs you as a veteran sufferer so you could do away with the same old BULLSHIT, just cut it out, we've heard it all, unless it's hot off the press, don't speak...just fucking treat me! and do it how it was done to my satisfaction last.
they have cards with allergies
listed, they have cards with your specific diseases listed, why can't they get a veteran sufferer card?! We deserve it!
amazing.
our health care "system" is so broken. i'm not even sure what to say after reading your plight, triv, other than it makes my aids sounds like a head cold. well, not really, but i've been in that stable place (all the chronic ailments have become nuisances, not harbingers of some life threatening opportunistic illness) for so long that i seem to have compartmentalized the horrible time.
I've mellowed out quite a bit since these
events took place. My first in hospital infusion therapy week was in 96 or 97 and clear through to oh, maybe 2000 I was a bad patient. Hey, I was pissed, took me a while to deal with it~
I'm Hank
and I really don't know
Self medication
it catches up with you and once you realize for the third time and friends and family drive the point home it's hard to accept.
Addiction is a chronic condition that some of us deal with with no cure. This may be a strange view but it is a disease that affects every aspect of our lives. While we may seem to be functioning others know different..
Sorry to unload but your post was like a punch in the gut triv and made me realize that the cigs, the booze and the parties are all choices unlike a true condition that we have no control over. They were and are escape mechanisims from the depression I feel for not "living up to" expectations set for me by others (this is like therapy). Today I say "I'm good" but that is only because I'm drunk.
addiction is a chronic condition, my friend.
and you can unload here any time and not be sorry.
Addiction is definitely a medical condition.
And it is definitely chronic. Yes, there may be triggers which push the buttons, but people are per-disposed, physiologically. It's not fair to consider it some personal weakness. Some people are per-disposed to diabetes. Doesn't make them a lesser person. Nor does addiction. I hope you can take that darkness out of your self-reflection and let a little light back into the mirror.
there is NOTHING like being treated like
a damn drug seeker at an ER. For fuck's sake, yes! Yes, I am seeking drugs, you moron, I'm in a good deal of pain. That's the legitimate reason, I believe.
once had to go to ER in the US
for a cluster-migrane which the fiorcet was not even scratching; my peripheral vision was going. So, I go to the ER, they put me in a room with a child that has to get stitches who is of course screaming with florescent lights burning and leave me there for 45 minutes. I was almost vomiting by the time they came and gave me fiorcet with codeine (3 pills in total) to help. This was borderline sadism.
This will make you laugh though. I had HIP as a graduate student and they sent me to the neurologist and every time I went to see him he would spend like 40 minutes with me. I finally asked him, don't you have other patients? He said, usually when people are sent to me they have brain tumours or something really awful. Your migraines, I can try and find something to help. Of course, this was the man that gave me high blood pressure pills to deal with the increased migraines at the time of the month; I had every possible counterindication including fever, sores in and around my mouth, fainting from the damn pills. He asked how they worked, told him I threw them out and why ... on to the next treatment. They do not have fiorcet in the UK; they give me 30mg of codeine and 500 of tylenol to deal with the damn things ... needless to say I am of course addicted to codeine.
I have big trouble keeping codeine or the like
down. But with the nasal spray it did not matter, even if you got sick, it was in you.
yeah, I hear you ..
almost tossed up the meds they gave me today which is a powder that is dissolved in water (the smell of food makes me gag when I am like this, horrible tasting water ... I am retching all over the place and trying to hold it down) ... vomiting does not help, it makes you more miserable and it hurts!!! the nasal spray sounds like a great idea ... my sinuses are a mess, but it may be worth it. the meds they gave me helped with the immediate pain but activated the menieres badly which was already starting to give me problems. It is so nice having someone to kvetch at ...
What annoys me about myself is that I didn't go earlier to the doctor trying to avoid the inevitable aggro and trying everything else before having no other options.
I get really, really ticked off
if I start tossing my fiorocets. It's one thing if they're not touching the headache, but to not be able to keep them down! No dam fair! I used to take double what I take now and I'm good with that, but I don't want to lose a single one.
have a small stash
that I keep for emergencies like this one ... family secret ... tossing them is almost criminal ... I am feeling so worried that I will run out of the tiny stash due to this latest little drama; my shrink (bless her) turned off the lights when I told her they were making things worse. Have you ever wanted to kiss your shrink?! Given I am in the UK, it may have been treated as an assault ... :D
I haven't been to therapy since 99.
I think I do okay. We have a messed up system over here where even if I wanted to it would be problematic for me to get back into it.
this is on the NHS
but it is very hard to get anything but some version of CBT which is not what I really need on the NHS; I finally gave up and am going through the compassion version of it ... :/
thank D_g...
i don't have an illness where being a seeker is an automatic assumption.
this is usually the case more with
chronic back-ache, migraines, fibromyaglia (until it is diagnosed and even after), arthritis ... things like that ... it just adds embarrassment to your agony. I just don't get why they feel the need to do this especially when you have diagnoses that lead to pain that require relief. They actually treat you in some weird way as though you are weak because you are trying to stop suffering.
This is one of the specific problems for those with hidden disabilities that just adds to the misery of the illness; no one believes you, you may not be showing symptoms that everyone can see. Doctors are really insensitive as though you are making things up to get drugs ...
What's wrong, tho is just how many
assumptions are made about people with any and all disabilities and it's perfectly okay. There's a small veneer of shame allowed to persist around disabilities and you know that makes my "fuck that!" list.
Exactly Triv33
That insistence that you need to be ashamed for some reason for having a disability is what I think also enables them to undercut disability benefits over here and this is of course having an horrific impact on those with chronic invisible disabilities like depression, migraines, fibromyaglia, ME (chronic fatigue syndrome) or those where symptoms change over time like AIDS, menieres, arthritis and anxiety attacks. Since we are ok sometimes, it clearly in some people's minds means that we are not disabled and hence we are shirking work or normal activities.
right.
And people here ought to pay attention to that. If they don't think that austerity measures are going to affect us disproportionately they're wrong. And these tea baggers think nothing of dehumanizing ways of robbing people of their dignity, they have states trying to drug test people for their food stamps, are we next? Clearly, it's okay...it's not like we're real people.
the only reason i got lucky and have not had...
to deal with this travesty is that i have an allergic like reaction to narcotics... the flip side unfortunately is there literally is nothing for pain for me save for motrin, advil, and aleve. sucks.
was on vioxx, which was ok, but it got pulled off the market and i have been SOL since...
have you tried celebrex?
I found it very similar to vioxx.
can't afford a doctor or the meds... sigh...
oh, I am so sorry honey!
Thankfully, I have my NHS. I would be lost w/o it as there is no way that private policies would take me due to all the pre-existing conditions. The US health system is a catastrophe for those that actually need health care.
it is a disaster over here... i pray someday maybe, just...
maybe, we'll get some form of single payer... cuz even with the "must take" provision in Obamacare - it's anything but affordable...
and don't feel bad - i get by - and i whine a lot - that helps me cope, lol... and i'll double up or rotate OTC pain stuff so my system doesn't get used to it... i also keep decent track of my sleep - pretty regular sleep sched - that helps a lot too... i get by ok.. :D
exactly
and it is still on the market; it works well for osteoarthritis at least at the level that I have it and also for my MIL who has it in the hips.
exactly
and it is still on the market; it works well for osteoarthritis at least at the level that I have it and also for my MIL who has it in the hips.
Thanks for sharing, triv33
It's amazing how arrogant doctors are and how little we have come. I still get nerve pains(intense shit that feels like someone is stabbing me an sometimes it makes me scream, and I have a high tolerance for pain) to this day from the nerve damage from my accident and I have always heard stupid shit like, "I don't know what it means. Maybe you're getting better. Maybe you're getting worse. Maybe it doesn't mean anything." Your circulatory system is complicated and they still don't really know anything about it. Once they do, we won't be able to afford what they have to offer, because the days of Jonas Salk are long gone. Since Salk....
So trust yourself as you did, and luckily you may find someone that understands you as you just did, my friend.
I had a chemical burn
in my right eye in the mid eighties when they were first attempting cornea transplants after the third one that rejected I said no more. To this day I have days that I feel like a spike is being driven through my forehead, not every day but I never know when they will happen. Of course I am a carpenter/millwright /slave and so am expected to perform so excuses don't fly. Just call me the one eyed inelligible dude LOL
Ouch. You went through hell man
You're still going through it. Mine comes and goes(hell when it comes). Kudos for carrying on.
It's crazy man
they had me on demorol, 60 a month for almost a year after it first happened which gave me an addiction that combined with the alcohol was a pretty fun ride. Next they thought percodans was the answer, woohoo!, that was like speed after the d's then we stepped down to percocets were alright but when they prescribed me Tylox I figured it wasn't worth it. This was over a four year period during my surgeries (ever got a needle in the eyeball). Funny thing is advil or aleve is the strongest thing I take now I have no tolerance for any type of pain pill now.
Damn.....
That is a nightmare and it was all for naught. I'm sorry, man. At least you kicked the pill addiction. That is dangeorus but understanable, too. Sometimes I'd like to shoot my left arm up with heroin; not that I have any buit in those times of extreme pain you have extreme thoughts.
I gave up years
ago on the medical system we have in this society. Every chronic 'condition' I have had from my early teens to my old age (yikes) has been aggravated by our so called health care system. It seems to me that all western medicine as practiced these days is good for is triage or some pathogen they know how to kill. The term saw bones comes to mind. When it comes to conditions that are not pathological but imbalances/diseases that are particular to being human and an organism that does not function according to their to their data they have no real clue how to help the patient. No real interest either.
I have anxiety attacks, full blown ones where I think I'm dying. The first time I had one was about 12 years ago. I went to an ER but made the mistake of telling them what I thought of western medicine. Once all the tests came back they told me I was fine physically and that I could get meds for my 'problem'. I was mental and they had a drug to give relief. The guy who had given me a cardiogram said quietly when the doctor was out of the room. Maybe you should try acupuncture if your adverse to taking meds. Some times what our system prescribes is worse then what your suffering from.
I took his advise to heart and through my sister in law found a Chinese herbalist/acupuncturist who had been a cardiologist in China but due to the cultural revolution had emigrated and established a practice here that used both systems to help people with conditions that are not pathogenic but systemic. She has over the years not only made my panic attacks manageable through diet, breathing exercises and recognition but helped me 'cure' chronic eczema and other inflammatory conditions I suffer from. I have too much fire and this is no surprise to me, although I do self medicate organically. occasionally.
I'm not saying there are cures for these conditions as they seem to be part and parcel of the human condition and our reactions to the often toxic world we live in Perhaps western medicine is not the right prescription for dealing with them. I hope I don't come off as a woo woo advocate but maybe western medicine as practiced now for profit and based on machines that go ping and chemical drugs is not the answer. We are after all human. Our conditions even though personal are universal, timeless and relief from our pain is not something shameful but what healing should be about. Thanks triv33 I hope I have not offended in my disbelief in modern western medicine for profit and big pharma. . There are other solutions to migraines or joint pain or any pain other then what our for profit inhumane medical system tells you is untreatable.
No, you don't offend me at all.
I actually have sought alternative therapies and still use my meditation and herbal therapy as needed, but no matter what I did, the headaches stayed. My body hates pthalates, so I stay away from toxic fragrance and I know what will trigger a worse headache. I'm open minded as all hell when it come to this. Over the course of 30 years I've seen some things, for instance--reflexology regulated my menstual cycle, I had never been regular my entire life, then I went for reflexology for the headaches, I winced when he touched a certain part of my foot and he asked if I had a regular cycle. I did soon after.
It only takes a couple of those experiences
to open your mind up against prejudices against seemingly non-science based medicine. I make fun of things, like astrology, but actually, I try never to pretend I know what will not work. The most basic part of it isn't woo woo at all, and that is finding someone who touches your body, who is interested in what you eat and how you live, but really, it's just who touches your body, who sees that you are a person with this particular body in front of them now. The western doctors now, thanks to insurance companies, sit with their laptops while "interviewing" you. Hello, I'm over here. Here is my body right here. Something is wrong.
But I mainly think it is lucky to find a true healer, no matter what their medium. And I think they can be found anywhere, maybe more likely in a more basic form of treatment, like acupuncture. Listen to this story.
When my daughter was 13, she was diagnosed with a rare kidney disease. There was protein in her urine. It was increasing. Her kidneys were scarring up and starting to leak protein. The doctors were pretty certain, as all the literature tells you, that she was very unlilkely to live beyond 18 or so, maybe into her twenties if she was lucky. This was a very dangerous state of affairs, a great danger of what Dr. whats-is-name calls medical hexing, telling a person how long they have to live. Her pediatrician, thank all lucky things, was a beautiful, relaxed, responsive woman. She was relaxed and never once came close to hexing my girl. She stayed very in the moment, and the effect on H of going to her was mostly positive, supportive. There were men around, ready to send us to the morgue. Immediately after the biopsy, we had a terrible meeting, at which H was made to understand how they felt about it. In the hall, I told her, those are just statistics, they don't take into account all the things we were going to do. We will be a very small percentage, doing all these alternative things. My message to her--nothing is certain. This is not certain.
It was tricky protecting her from all that, but also being afraid it was true, and not wanting to mislead. She responded mostly by wanting to ignore us and being angry at us for showing our engaging our various crazy reactions to such terrible news. My ex-wife was making me crazy, hooking up with all kinds of support groups of people waiting for their kids to die, making H angry and making me squirm. Maybe she was right.
We did everything. As I say, why would I assume something won't work. What if it will? There was a pivotal meeting, and our pediatrician quietly saved my daughter's life. We were on the verge of plunging into medical insanity when they don't know how to solve something and start treating it like crazy. Without having seemed to notice the politics of the situation, and without having dicussed it specifically with me, she very calmly and easily steered the discussion a different way, then stayed quiet the rest of the time, as she had stayed quiet so far. It was so subtle, and perhaps unconscious. I felt like crying in gratitude. I really think the main thing is finding the right person. It may have been the massive dose of prednizone all summer long (the medical establishment's version of a hail mary), or maybe the four days of bitter Chinese teas, or maybe the swimming with the dolphins. Those are the three leading contenders. She was doing breath work at a spiritual center (being coached, as a matter of interest, by River Phoenix's mom), when she knew she was well--she had never fully believed she was sick. She told us all that she wasn't going to participate in the "H's gonna die" drama any longer. Next time she had a test, her blood protein was nearly normal. Now she's thirty. She's still stubborn as hell. She's a terrible terrible patient.
Me too.
Acupunture made me regular enough to get pregnant with my daughter. It also worked really well to release some intense pain and tension in my shoulder and neck. I would like to try it out for treating anxiety, when I can afford it.
Me too regarding
fragrances or aromatherapy or even certain natural ingredients in soaps, candles or lotions. Lavender real and mild does seem to calm my skin One of my chronic conditions is eczema. My skin goes nuts with anything that's scented or strong. For years I went to dermatologist 's who prescribed really strong cortisone i topically or sometimes injections. It only worked for short time relief and seemed to just encourage outbreaks along with freaking acne because steroids invite infections. I finally went to a woman dermatologist in San Francisco who asked me if anyone in my family had asthma. My mom did and she explained that my eczema was similar it was an inflammatory reaction. She said it would flare up in season changes and would be triggered by wool or polyesters any clothing that did not allow air in. She recommended loose cotton clothes and to not eat acidic inflammatory food like the nightshade family or citrus. Lot's of veggies which help alkalize the system. I also think it was hormonal as over the years it has simmered down and only happens once in a while.
It's hard to find an AMA doctor that is also a healer who is able to treat you with common sense these days. It seems to me that medicine/healing is an art as well as science. Most doctors scoff at herbal medicine which has been around for as long as humans. Mind body spirit is what we're made of and chronic conditions are more complex then most modern medicine is willing to admit. They also do not recognize the patients ability to be part of the process of regaining balance and health. Not once in my years of dealing with specialists for any chronic pain or condition has any modern western doctor asked me about diet or even tried to figure out what was causing my body to react so extremely.
Dr. Wong my herbalist acupuncturist Chines doctor when I first went to her asked me alot of questions that were personal and drew me into the process. She asked about what I had been doing when my panic attacks started and how my body was feeling. What I had eaten or drank medications I was taking. We're you around toxins? Do you feel hot or cold pain? Where does your pain/ panic start in your body? When you are thirsty do you want cold or hot beverages? I was not just a collection of diagnosis via machines like a car that was not running right. Chinese medicine is ancient and valid. Especially regarding pain acupuncture is very good at rerouting the nervous system and it's herbal medicine has cured both me and Shahayar with an herbal connoction of as Dr. Wong calls them 'little bugs', that are resistant to antibiotics and flu shots.
As for expense, I'm uninsured and a visit to Dr. Wong is 130 dollars, herbal medicine included. The last time I went to the ER for an infected ankle wound from gardening it cost 900$. When the nurse practitioner who treated me asked for me about my doctor I told her about Dr. Wong. I said with something like this I figure I need western medicine. Her reply was 'Oh I don't know she probably has something in her cupboard that would suck this fucker right out.' .
So if your problem is pain from nerves to bones to headaches you might try to find a real Chinese practitioner, they seem to over the centuries have a handle on these types of systemic human suffering . The ER nurse practitioner asked me for Dr. Wong's number. I said I need to find a western doctor who's decent she said "If you do call me and give me their name.
fibromyalgia and osteoarthritis here...
invisible illnesses... they suck... it took a long time for my sister and my pop to grasp how bad i can feel without looking bad - i still think they don't totally get it... my ma and bro got it cuz they are bipolar and that was easier to accept cuz it's i don't more mainstream....?
my road to diagnosis was a long and painful one, a lot like yours triv - multiple docs, batteries of tests, a host of medicine combos, loss of some friendships, and just feeling tired and shitty all the time... maybe i'll write about it for a column here.
the osteo is a more recent development, but i have it about 25-30 years earlier than most folks get it. already have titanium screws in one joint. yay. not.
don't have insurance anymore, so i make due with a few OTC fill ins and it's workable for the time being. also helps that my job is on the less high maintenance side of things and is right next to my house.
but boy invisibles suck. big time suck.
a great first post for a great series i am glad is being resurrected. :D
Thanks for reposting that, brave triv
I'd put you right up there with brave Sir Robin, what you have endured. I did not see that when you first posted it.
First of all, I thought you said once that you couldn't write? What was that? Wow. Delightful for all the horror. Thanks for that.
Tame story here, but I got a small small taste of it. I was sick with Lyme for maybe six weeks. First of all, impossible to describe symptoms. I learned that, for me at least, after a certain level of bad, and foggy mind and no sleep to boot, I didn't know my symptoms. I knew that I felt terrible everywhere all the time in many different ways. And I could only issue a plea--please, please relieve me from this pain. Antibiotics worked almost immediately (I had Lyme with a classic visible bite in an area with endemic Lyme, especially that year, and it took 6 weeks and 3 visits to the doctor to get them. As I say, I only went back the third time to beg him, even though I had zero expectation that he would help me.
My headaches were especially noticeable at night, when I lay in bed dog tired and unable to sleep, the pain more prominent in the absence of other stimuli during the day. That's when I felt the headaches. I'm sure they weren't even in the same class as cluster or migraine. I don't see how people function. Sometimes, it just feels like going through the motions. That's when character shows. That's why we love people like triv, and Dave, and NYBrit.
Thanks for reviving this series. I hope someone contacted others who may want to be here.
Anyway, a few months later I did gradually increasing heavy-duty herbals until I made my sense of taste turn everything bitter, so much so that I lost fifteen pounds in no time. End of herbal remedy, but I may have done some damage to those little spirochetes. Then a couple of years later, I got a tick bite, this time in the west. We noticed it immediately, because it had an inflamed response very much like the first bite. We pulled the tick off. I knew that, even if my immune system weren't already full of antibodies, we got it before I could become infected. Suddenly, I freaked out--don't know any other way to describe it. The facts didn't matter. I knew, from having been tested, that those little bastards were still moving around in my body, wherever they wanted to go. It's a crap shoot when you may go blind or worse. Anyway, I stumbled over to the bed, laydown on my stomach with a pillow over my head. "I can't take this." It was the amygdala, it remembered on an intense emotional level the horror of my six weeks of misery and confusion.
I went to a doctor who specializes in Lyme, i.e., faces the disrespect of his profession by taking Lyme seriously. He fixed me up real good, treated a lot of things. Nobody knows what to do, but I took the antibiotic for several months--not fun, but no biggie for me. I'm making up my own regimen. I'm going to clear my body of the things this doctor, who has quackish qualities, has put in them, do all the tests again once my body is clear, and see if anything got fixed that stayed fixed. That way, I hope to start back up with a lot fewer pills. They aren't pharmaceuticals, they're like naturopath medicine, amino acids and specific molecules. It worked wonders for me. I mean, I think I was symptom-free, except for lethargy, but I freaked out so much I got treatment anyway, and it did make me feel a lot better.
My daughter in law just found a doctor--it made her cry
She has been sick for probably four months. She is a very high-energy person, compulsively so, and that makes it doubly difficult to see her lying around, not being funny and getting things done. No clue what it is. Failed all the tests. Not that. Not that. Then after a while, probably not that either.
I'm reporting this third-hand, but this doctor says, "I know what you're going through. You're experiencing the worst of the medical system. I'm going to try to help you. I'll talk to you at least once a week, I'll follow what is happening with you, I'll try to help you find out what this is. You can call me any time. I'll treat this seriously."
My d-i-l burst into tears of relief. This woman goes and hugs her. What a relief, even if she can't work magic. Knowing that they are actually motivated to help you is a good starting point.
Triv, your story is so inspiring. I wish I could learn to be tougher like that. You know, the longevity studies show that the bad patients are more likely to improve.
Sorry I missed this evening.
I'm still in a nightmare treatment experience. Probably until 6am. Nurses came at 4pm. 14 hour treatment. And total chaos for about 5 of those. Hope to be able to write about it, but too damned exhausted right now.
Hang in there
I'll check back in later. I'm sure others will, too. Comment sections move slowly here.
My PITA
It all started in the fall of 2011. I had what I thought was a bad pimple on my back and tried to pop it, but that didn't really work. The middle of my back got very red and sore and infected, but lacking health insurance and not desiring an enormous hospital bill to once again mar my credit report, I declined to receive medical attention, and self-treated. The tea tree oil I used seemed to help expel some infected tissue and I was left with a crater-sized scar in the middle of my back, and that was the end of it. Or so I'd thought.
It was the day before Christmas Eve and my chin was exploding. I had what felt like a golf ball embedded under my skin, yet another infected abscess, and it hurt like hell. This time there was no avoiding the emergency room; I needed to get it lanced and have some heavy duty antibiotics prescribed. I went to my school's medical facility, and luckily the place was empty so I was seen almost right away. The ER doctor tried to drain the wound but it really had nothing to give but blood. I was swabbed so they could test me for community-acquired MRSA and told that the football team at my school had suffered from an outbreak. It dawned on me then that I had been attending a yoga class with a bunch of footballers all year, and perhaps I had acquired it from the contact with dirty mats that sometimes occured in the course of stretching, especially since the outbreak showed up first on my back. I had my mom pick up my daughter and drive her because I was on too much pain medication, and the next day as I drove to her house between doses I was rear-ended while heading down 19th Avenue through San Francisco. That was Christmas Eve.
It was Spring. My Dutch boyfriend had just arrived from overseas to meet me for the first time in person. Everything was going extremely well and then all of a sudden, I got another damned abscess, only this time it showed up in a very uncomfortable, intimate place. I was mortified. I had hoped the antibiotics I had taken the last time would have wiped out the MRSA, but it had returned with a vengeance. At least this time I had qualified for Medi-Cal, and had the previous bill covered retroactively, so I had no hesitation to return to the Emergency Room and perhaps seek a specialist. Driving to the ER, in incredible pain, was my only option because my boyfriend didn't have a driver's license. But first I had head across town to drop my daughter off at daycare and then head all the way back, cursing and avoiding sitting on the excrutiating globe that was burning in my groin.
We made it to the hospital in one piece, but after uncomfortably sitting in the university hospital's waiting room for almost eight hours with absolutely no pain management, I felt like a far more traumatized person than the one who had hobbled into the establishment. Finally we were led to a treatment room and I carefully explained my previous history with MRSA abscesses to the attending physician. She brought in some residents to see my anomalous wound, and after consulting, they decided I had some kind of obscure cyst in a gland that would require a special kind of catheter to drain for weeks, one which they did not have on hand at the hospital and whose installation would require a follow-up urgent visit tomorrow at the OBGYN specialist upstairs. I was completely and utterly horrified, especially that this was all happening while my boyfriend was visiting my country and we were trying to enjoy our time together, so to speak. The only redeeming factor was that he got to see, first-hand, how Americans practice medicine in the richest country in the world. He was not impressed.
I was told the clinic would be given information about my malady and encouraged to call first thing in the morning. So I did. Only they had no clue about my case or what I was talking about. However, I managed to convince them to make me an urgent same-day appointment, and was seen within hours. Once inside, we were ushered to a treatment room and my boyfriend was encouraged to not view the procedure. However, once the doctor was able to actually examine the location, she discovered that it was just another garden-variety skin abscess, probably MRSA, and lanced the horrible pocket. My boyfriend became my nurse, packing the wound and helping me heal. He was great. I was mostly back to normal in no time. The doctor referred me to an infectious diseases specialist so that I could finally take the regimen of antibiotic treatments that would cure me of the MRSA colony that was plaguing me. I tried making an appointment, but because my Medi-Cal got switched to a county administered plan, I needed to see one of their doctors and get referred to another specialist, probably in a different hospital. I had almost no gas left but we made the trip, sat in a clinic in a portable building to see a doctor who listened to my story and then said she'd give me a referral, but then left the room and never came back, and everyone left for lunch in a back room. I left and tried to call around to figure out how I could get treatment. How could it be that such a highly infectious, intractable, anti-biotic resistant disease that costs the state so much money would be ignored and never properly treated, causing a lot of pain and suffering, and nobody was even being alerted that they might have been exposed?
Then the summer came and we had to move because my rent kept getting raised and I hadn't been able to find steady work. My boyfriend flew back out and packed us all up and loaded my earthly possessions into containers. We moved in with my parents and caught colds. The next week I started getting another abscess on my posterior, so I went to a local urgent care clinic and told them the whole story, including the fact that I had been diagnosed with MRSA before and that I needed access to the proper regimen for cleaning my skin and nasal passages of the resistant colonies. I actually knew what to ask for because I had done my research online and found out what I would have been given if I could have made it to a specialist. This time I got prescribed a different, stronger antibiotic, an antibacterial salve to swab inside my nostrils, and a recommendation for an over-the-counter sanitizing rinse with which I was to bathe from head to toe. It was especially stressed that my family use the same cleaning regimen, and that all our clothing and bedding be cleaned frequently and the bathroom be especially sanitized. We complied.
However, the regimen was apparently started too late for my boyfriend because he ended up in the clinic with the same diagnosis as I got: a big pain in the butt. He had a great sense of humor about the whole thing, except for the times I accidentally ripped the tape and bandaging off and unintentionally waxed the area. Good times.
In July we eloped in Reno. He's had to return to his country since then for immigration reasons, but I get to visit next month and I'm really excited. I haven't had any more outbreaks, and neither has he, so I'm hoping we both beat the bug. The only lingering effect has been the hospital bill and collection agency who can't seem to figure out how to invoice his socialized Dutch healthcare for their exorbitant fees. All in all, I think we both emerged from the experience with a richer perspective on the complete and utter failure of the health delivery system in America, and a much deeper respect for our ability to care for each other as partners.
America--
fuck yeah! OMG, I remember that! Some Christmas, eh?
A side note about MRSA
I hope you've got rid of the little buggers, but I wanted to mention one thing. Honey from New Zealand, from a certain tree in New Zealand, has shown good results helping from MRSA. You just put it on the skin in a poltice. The stuff probably comes already in poltice form. I told one person about this who was having a hell of a time, and he got good results with it. You have to be sure, though, that it comes from the right kind of tree.
Manuka Honey.
You can get it online.