Welcome to the Sunday evening open thread.
Yeah, there was another one of those debates. No, I didn't watch that one, either. Why not? Because I'm still not voting for either one of them. This explains a couple of the reasons why not:
I sort of idly wondered if the Nobel Committee could ever top itself for awarding the Peace Prize to Barack Obama without him having done anything to deserve it; this year, they managed it by giving the award to the European Union. Next year, rumor has it that the award will go to Henri, le Chat Noir.
Some guy took thrillseeking to new heights today.
Arlen Specter has died at the age of 82. What I remember most about him: his less-than-admirable treatment of Anita Hill during the Clarence Thomas confirmation hearings, and his "not proven" vote during the Clinton impeachment. He also proved pretty much beyond a shadow of a doubt that there is no longer a place in the Republican Party for moderates.
How was your week?
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I'll be glad when this election is over.
Of course who knows what comes next, the stage seems set for alot of bullshit, to use a euphenism for war, austerity, poverty, fascism, and political insanity.
I can't watch the debates because I can no longer stomach watching people who are in fucking serious positions representing this country flat out lie and decieve about everything, including the pretense that it's even real.
I'll be interested in the numbers, how many vote for Obama vs Romney and how many vote for the third party candidates, as I will. Plus the percentage of voters overall to see if there's any progress is showing how fucked up this fake democracy is.
Other than that, get it over with, I won't have blood on my hands from voting for either one, whoever wins.
as somebody wrote, somewhere....
Votes for a third party candidate will make clear to the Democrats exactly how many votes they lost by moving to the right (into Republican territory). They can then ignore us and lose again, or move back to the Democratic side.
I can't say I'm rooting for Romney to win because he's terrible. But I might think Obama deserves to lose.
Well, there is the theory that under Obama the
oligarchy can more easily enact their austerity measures and continue with their wars. That appears dependent on the left rising up and protesting against those issues if Romney were Prez, while collectively the left has been neutered by Obama the savior. Might be some plausibility to that if the democrats in Congress could be persuaded to fight back against Romney and the republicans because their constituencies have had enough. Relative to foreign policies, I don't see any difference. They're all American exceptionalist neocons who truly believe the US should rule the world by military and economic force. Even if they don't believe it or support it in their bones, there's no way to stop it now,
I'm not rooting for Romney also, but I don't care and more of me thinks it may be more beneficial in the long run than a four year lame duck stint from what has increasingly become a pathetic compromising Uncle Tom, no racism intended.
if we had faith that a 2016 candidate would do right
after this current President I don't think I'll ever be able to believe anything that a politician might say. I trust Merkley. I doubt that he'd run and, if he did, I doubt he'd be allowed to compete fairly.
I remember the Democratic debates where Obama, Clinton and Edwards got about 85% of the air time while the other five candidates got a question or two.
So waiting for 2016 seems, to me, to be a likely losing proposition. 2016 will be as rigged as 2012. We'll have to figure out how to either topple the whole system or how to live without it being part of our lives. The latter seems difficult because we can read about what's being done here and around the world in the name of the American people.
But I'm holding on to the idea that if we live good lives that that might somehow lead to something better down the road.