Well, I guess this will be an attempt to have a discussion. And as long as everyone is respectful, we should be able to have it. :D
What do you think, if anything, should be done in the wake of the Connecticut massacre?
What was the cause? Are there answers? Is it more guns, mental health, or our culture?
How do you feel in the aftermath?
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I've got to think about my answer a bit longer...
I'm still waiting for the answer to why the United States
has more gun deaths than any other nation.
And no, I don't think mental health is the problem, although it is related but not the cause.
well, people who go on these sprees...
it comes to light that they had some mental health issues and most of the time were not currently being treated. most folks mentally healthy, whether normal or through treatment, are not going to go on shooting sprees, even if they have easy access to guns. so yeah, i'd say it's definitely related.
and gun control limits still wouldn't have stopped this shooter from shooting; it would have prevented that magnitude, but shouldn't we strive to stop the shooting entirely, not just the massive ones?
I think Rep. Rush Holt, one of many, said it best:
yeah, we definitely need stronger controls...
and enforcement of the ones that are on the books. and all of the loopholes should be plugged. and we certainly don't need high volume magazines. we need to have some gun control in this country. as i see it now, we don't much of any.
I'm not against all gun ownership... just the ones
that can shoot several bullets a second.
Shoot several bullets per second
That would exclude the AR-15 and other semi-auto assault weapon lookalikes which fire one round per pull of the trigger.
The spec. firing rate for an AR-15 is 45 rounds per minute, less than one round per second.
As far as I know real assault weapons, those that can be operated in the full-auto mode where one pull of the trigger fires multiple rounds, are not available, except perhaps with a special permit, to the general public.
I agree with E.J Dionne
Whether or not this could have been prevented, there should be less rounds in a magazine and better enforcement. I also think austerity has something to do with this and the recent spike because states are broke, everyone is desperate, mental health comes into play second hand, there needs to be stronger gun laws, no family should have guns that teach their autistic son how to shoot. I also think it's pathetic that we can intrude so much into other peoples lives with this war on terror to "keep people safe," but we can't monitor schools for people busting through the window with handguns that can shoot several bullets a second killing teachers and children. All these things mix together for one concoction of violence.
And where was John Wayne? Where were the cowboys lookng to save the day? Probably at home watching westerns playing cowboy in their head like they were a little boy. Certainly someone lived near the school that held these views. Why didn't he ride on his horse and save the day? because it's a dangeorus fantasy. Only a brave teacher saved the children with her life.
yeah, heard that fantasy more than a few...
times on facebook lately - that more guns is the answer. ummmm.... no.
when i'm being shot at i certainly don't want to have to worry about crossfire while trying to get to safety.
and it's a big fat fantasy that anyone, when surprised by a shooter, will have the calm, cool control and composure needed to get their gun out and aim at the right person to shoot. this supposedly happening while mayhem is going on around them. that is totally a John Wayne bullshit fantasy.
Indeed, poligirl. It's hard to look at facebook...
during these times. So many dangerous fantasies like that one.
A few brief thoughts in response to your question
But first we've not seen much information about the perpetrator only that his mother was a teacher at the school and the gun or guns used belonged to her.
It's easy enough to think the killer was mentally unstable. More information should give further insight or perhaps I've missed it.
No, I don't think more guns would be a wise idea, nor do I think that stricter gun controls would have prevented this. If the government tried to confiscate all of the guns out there we might end up in another civil war. The gun culture is very strong in some rural areas of the US.
Great sadness for the kids and their families. So young. I also grieve for the kids we kill with drones and by other means. I'm sure their families grieve no less than than those of these kids in Connecticut.
Is ProgressiveBlue dead and gone forever?
There were a few I wrote there that were exclusive.
We saved a mirror site Eddie
I'll have to get you the link but everything there was saved as far as I know.
Please email it to me.
edcnyc (at) gmail (dot) com
everything was saved....
a couple weeks ago, but it was right as our techie was going out of town for the holiday. have put in a message to her for the link and login info to access it... :D